Simple Simon 36 Report post Posted October 19, 2011 I've seen some plans for the proposed new Zebra crossing in Gobowen that will cross the road between the Post Office and the Co-op. Although I recognise that there is a strong need for a crossing, I would advise caution. Situating a pedestrian crossing so close to the level crossing could cause a nasty accident, especially if longer vehicles are backed up onto the railway line waiting for people to cross. I would advise decision makers to approach RailTrack, the Highways Agency and the Derwen College. 1 Vuyo Madikizela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vuyo Madikizela 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2011 I think this is a very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liam Hope 5 Report post Posted October 25, 2011 I think this could end up being a very bad and dangerous idea putting a crossing that close to the railway. Also that you are placing the crossing on a T-Junction which means you could have three directions of possible traffic!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigemery 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2011 Completely against this idea, seems as if we're getting to the point when people are told when and where to cross, crazy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neo 6 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 craigemery, Do you not think this is a busy and dangerous road? Surely a safe route across the road has to be a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 1, 2011 I don't think anything too terrible has ever happened on that road in the whole 24 years I've been living in the village. Of course we could make it out to be a safety issue, but we could do that with cats falling from lamp-posts, lawn mowers going rogue and other half cocked ideas. So people have to wait a little while for traffic to pass, it has never been a problem before. My opinion is: If it isn't broken, don't waste time, effort and (most importantly) money fixing it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwyneth1210 1 Report post Posted November 3, 2011 Agree not a good place for a crossing,perhaps better further down the road towards the roundabout just after Temperance House. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neo 6 Report post Posted November 4, 2011 It won't work by Temperance House, I can't see people from the post office, pub, railway walking (across another road) to get to the crossing. They will take the chance across the road as they do now. They only place it can be is the proposed position, but as Justin says is there a need..... but do you want until there is a serious accident until you decide you need a crossing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple Simon 36 Report post Posted November 4, 2011 As I understand it, the funding is already available and it's just a case of the location. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Drury 23 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 I've also seen the plans for the new Zebra crossing in Gobowen that will cross the road between the Post Office and the Chinese take away,which will eliminate the choice of where to cross. Placing a pedestrian crossing so close to the level crossing and station car park entrance a T-Junction and parking for the post office. which gives you five directions of traffic to contend with plus cars parked outside the Co op and a Bus stop a very dangerous position. I think the money would be far better spent on traffic calming measure's like those on Morda road in Oswestry. 1 Paul Drury reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gardner 10 Report post Posted January 20, 2012 The reason so many people have to cross Station Road is that almost all of the main shops in Gobowen are located there! Many years ago the local grocers was on the corner of Bypass Road. Today the building is unused and in a terrible state. It should be torn down and a new Co-op should be built on the site. There's so much more room for the store, parking and space for deliveries. It's also very close to the existing zebra crossing. The existing Co-op building could be split into individual business units or small shops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple Simon 36 Report post Posted February 7, 2012 I've just seen a Shropshire Council map showing where the new crossing will be sited on display in Gobowen Library. It's very close to the junction with Old Whittington Road. It goes from the Post Office over to the Co-op. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maggie 65 Report post Posted February 15, 2012 This came up at LJC last night. A discussion ensued. It was pointed out that a zebra crossing would reduce the amount of car parking space available outside the Coop and that people parking there anyway would then be obscuring the zebra crossing; a question was asked about how this would be policed.. Cllr David Lloyd stated that safety advisors had looked at options and determined that there would be no problems with putting the crossing here, and that they saw no worries about traffic backing up across the railway crossing because there was enough space to cope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liam Hope 5 Report post Posted February 15, 2012 Enough Space to cope??. What happens if someone decides to cross the railway track and is halted because of someone using the proposed zebra crossing?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maggie 65 Report post Posted February 15, 2012 I specifically asked this question and was assured by Cllr Lloyd that it had been considered by highways people who thought that it would work fine, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liam Hope 5 Report post Posted February 16, 2012 Will make it interesting to say the least when impatiant drivers partially cross the track! the age old question of who would win a fight car or a train!!, my money is on the train!. Can allways rely on the council to make things more dangerous!!!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff 4 Report post Posted February 20, 2012 A zebra crossing is a bad idea, thought up by well meaning but irresponible pressure groups. Why is it bad?The proposed route is on a corner served by a bus route.The route across the road (if by the shortest route) will eliminate parking outside the Co-op and the Cross Foxes because of the restrictions imposed by the 'zig-zag' lines. This will have the effect of reducing the likelehood of people shopping in the local shops.The danger of a rail accident is very real. Motorists have scant regard for the box junction on the railway crossing and sooner rather than later there will be an accident.Because of the above motorists will park in dangerous places to gain access to local amenities. It is time for our local Council to approach the County Council and demand a proper survey of this proposal, not, as I suspect a survey done from an office in Shrewsbury. Another poster commented on the need for this crossing given that there has not been an accident in 24 years - if it ain't broke don't mend it!! Think about it. Why cause a problem when one does not exist. I urge you to pressure our Council into action for the locals and the local community, not to bow to pressure groups in order to get themselves a pat on the back. 1 Liam Hope reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maggie 65 Report post Posted February 20, 2012 Do we know who is dealing with this in the council? I think they should be made aware of the discussion on this site, there are some very well argued points of view. Someone send them a link! 1 Geoff reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple Simon 36 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 Have any of the shops been consulted regarding the loss of parking for paying punters if the crossing does get the go-ahead? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Drury 23 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Do you think people will abide my the new parking restrictions,some will but allot will not, as most people park in the bus stop part of the lay-by now,which i feel it will make the whole idea even more dangerous. Edited February 23, 2012 by Paul Drury 1 Paul Drury reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff 4 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 The 'bus stop bit' of the layby is no longer a bus stop so parking there is not a problem. I feel the whole junction needs sorting - what, for instance, is that bit outside the dentist for and could it be removed to make the bus drivers' lives easier. As someone else posted 'trust the council to make things more difficult'. Perhaps the shopkeepers should be informed of the pending problem of parking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple Simon 36 Report post Posted February 24, 2012 I understand that there has been a longstanding campaign by various vocal individuals to get some kind of "official" crossing put across the road, so if there are any people that think it's not such a good idea...well, you'd better pull your fingers out because it looks as if it's going ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff 4 Report post Posted February 24, 2012 OK, but who and how are fingers to be pulled out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple Simon 36 Report post Posted February 24, 2012 I first heard about this last June. Some people would very much like to see the crossing because almost all of the shops in the village are on the other side of THAT road. It's not that these schemes are hidden, it's just that information isn't communicated to the people that it may affect. For instance, the elderly and people representing the Derwen college will welcome a crossing...but there may be knock on effects to the shops in light of reduced parking. In my humble view, I would suggest that...the Gobowen Working Mens Club, Spencers, The Sandwich Bar, Signature Smiles, the Chip Shop, Arriva, Whistles, the Chinese Takeaway, the Post Office, The Cross Foxes and Audreys will all be effected by a pedestrian crossing. Have any of these establishments been consulted, bearing in mind that the scheme is designed to help residents access these establishments. I have also heard that Shropshire Council (?) may start to charge for cars using the station car park. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Drury 23 Report post Posted February 24, 2012 I agree with all the comments on the reduced parking, but my main worry is how safe it will be to use! I also think people will park anyway, even with parking restrictions which will make the crossing even more unsafe. any comments on the zebra crossing I think needed to be at shirehall by the 14 of February 1 Paul Drury reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites