DJ Fresh

It's a bit primitive but you should be able to see the reductions on this attached screen shot. In the interim I will try to post the actual PDF!

Hello all, I think the new application has gone in! I have had real trouble trying to actually find it on the Shropshire council website. I have seen a pdf copy and amount of panels has reduced but the site is still substantial. Perhaps we all need to start applying more pressure on the new application.

Oh yes Bethan, I can see what you mean. It's the Landscape and Visual assessment document you are on about. I think you need to be logged in to view the document though. Interesting to see the Visual assessment on the viewpoints. A least they are admitting that it will need an ILLEGAL 3 meter high hedge grown to cover up the eyesore. I wonder if Elgin Energy offered the consultants Money like the Parish council?

Liam, I hope I havent upset you, your comments above seem a bit rushed as if you are angry? Just to try and refresh your memory I have used slices of your posts to help answer your questions. Liam: So what about the farmer if they have no alternative to make money? If they can't earn a living using their land? He has had crops on the land all summer and in previous years, so needing an alternative is a bit undermined. Crops are sold, farmer makes money. Simple! If they did not provide a living then why are the planting in the first place? You did mention the farmers financial situation as you can see above, it was a little while ago so you might have forgot what you posted. It makes no difference what so ever what car they drive but saying he is not earning a living from his land is an awful statement. Of course he is earning a living and a good one at that!! Do you think the farmer is not earning money from his land? If so you are much mistaken, he recently applied for additional agricultural buildings (which are not cheap) and has his roofs full of solar panels which provide and annual income for doing very little. Liam please tell me that I am not missing something, if being able to afford all these luxuries means you are struggling to make ends meet then I am obviously in the wrong job. Please offer some more guidance if you can Liam, as I thought the rush for the Solar Farm was to ensure the government subsidies where received? Please confirm. Unfortunatly the farmer can't just do what he wants with his land, if that where the case then he should just crack on with the panel installation. He does need permission as you hopefully know and understand. I'm glad you have now admitted to wanting the solar farm to be elsewhere (see Liam's quote above) the majority of posts on this site are against the Solar Farm. Thank you for agreeing with us on one thing at least. Looking forward to your reply, DJ Fresh.

Liam, thanks for your interaction, you have brought up a very interesting point about the suitability of some locations for panels like your garden. Perhaps you could use some of the information in the application for the Solar Farm in Rhosygdfa as guidance, they have suggested to raise up the panels to approximately 2 meters to gain full solar capture. Could that be an option for your garden when you have enough money to fund them? In addition to the comments on inefficiency of land useage, I'm not too sure if the farmer (Mr Michael Evans I think!) is as poor as you might think. An application for additional livestock buildings in Ebnal Lodge Farm has been applied for and is minuted in the previous agenda for the Parish Council. I'm sure these are not cheap to build and cost large amounts of money. I wonder if somebody who drives around in a Jaguar is really as skint as you may think - hardly on the bread line!! I wish I could afford a nice car rather than my push bike!!

Interesting comments by Liam, I wonder if he has solar panels in his back garden? Perhaps you could post a picture of them online Liam to show us all what the fuss is about or not as the case maybe? I am quite chuffed that my profile has been viewed by leebarnfield, I wasn't too sure I would get any views at all. I have been researching some of the Kyoto agreement 'stuff' that the UK government have signed up to and tried to put a few things into context, please see below some stark comparisons: 1. The UK has 17 Coal fired power station plants. 1. a. China has 620!! 2. The UK has not planned to build any more in the future. 2. a. China builds 3 more a week!! 3. The UK has 46 coal mines 3. a. China has 18,557!! I really think our green energy policy need to be addressed as a country and we all should be realistic about what this solar farm will achieve in Rhosygadfa, apart from making a few individuals very rich. Let's not think we are making a difference in the fight against global warming, especially when other countries are simply disregarding any protocols thought up in Kyoto. Keep England's green and pleasant land as it should be, i.e. not covered in large metal boxes for the next quarter of a century!!

Hi again, I have nearly got all of the way through the previous messages but before I finished reading I feel I need to post this message while I am still catching my breath!! Bethan has been very forthcoming with some very valuable information, I was astounded when I read how much money the farmer was looking to receive!! Hence the lack of breath!! I think he was referred to earlier as Mr Evans at Ebnal Lodge Farm (I think?). I am not a mathematician, but my quick calculations without taking into consideration VAT or Tax, for each year works out at £78,000. Over the 25 years of the projects proposed life span Mr Evans would receive 1.95 Million pound!! Elgin Energy is offering 60k each to the councils as a sweetener, and the residents are receiving nothing but an eyesore in their back gardens. Please tell me that Bethan has got the facts wrong, I can't see that as being morally or ethically correct.

On further investigation I can now see why this type of development is not seen as correct in this area. I have lived in lots of areas in the UK and Shropshire can be classed as one of the most beautiful counties in the country, with its green and pleasant rolling hills and magnificent farming heritage. Surely the councillors can be a bit more patriotic about what most of us take for granted but only realise what a fantastic thing it is when it is gone. As a neutral, I would like to try and persuade any councillors to do the right thing and save our landscape for future generations and not give in to targets set by people who don't live in the parish.

Please excuse my ignorance with regard to the proposed Solar Farm in Rhosygdfa, I have been reading the previous correspondence and feel slightly bemused about the benefits for the local community? I was also very concerned (as a neutral) about the money Elgin Energy is proposing to 'donate' to the parish councils (Gobowen and Whittington), if it is such a good idea for the good and benefit of us all and indeed the rest of the world then why offer any money at all? I have spent some time in Africa in my earlier years and this could have been seen as a 'bribe' to try and sway the decision. Although, I can understand what the parish clerk was saying about it not being part of the decision making process. I am convinced it will make a difference however much it is denied. Please don't think I am a cynic im just a realist. I will read on in the etrail that precedes this message, so please expect some more interesting comments as the plot thickens!